I tried another tack in another channel (#help) on EsperNet last night with the following results.
[19:48:07] <thimbronion> Who should I talk to about linking a server?
[05:45:24] <lol768> thimbronion: https://www.esper.net/txt/servapp.txt can be submitted as a support ticket. Can't guarantee we'd accept a link application though.
[09:45:58] <thimbronion> lol768: How is the decision made and why couldn't you guarantee a link application would be accepted?
[09:53:27] <lol768> It gets votes on by the admin staff
[09:53:34] <lol768> * voted
[09:53:47] <lol768> And I am not a mind-reader :p
[09:54:32] <lol768> It might be other folks think we are fine for new servers right
now, or would prefer applications come internally[09:59:12] <thimbronion> lol768: I see. So a simple majority vote?
[11:18:36] <lol768> 2/3rds majority
[13:14:52] <thimbronion> lol768: Do you know who the people might be who would object on the grounds that no servers are needed right now or prefer no external applications? Or perhaps there are some recent past proceedings I can check out?
[13:46:41] <chauffer> thimbronion, out of curiosity, why do you want to link a server?
[14:47:56] <thimbronion> chauffer: IRC is very important to us (I'm here for TMSR, lots and lots of logs here: http://logs.ossasepia.com) so we want to have a stake in whatever network(s) we join.
[14:56:18] <chauffer> what is TMSR?
[15:20:12] <lol768> >Or perhaps there are some recent past proceedings I can check out?
[15:20:31] <lol768> External link applications don't happen very often, I don't think one has happened in my time as an admin
[15:30:24] <lol768> We had four link applications in the ticket system in 2014. One was accepted, 3 were rejected. In 2015, we rejected one server application. In 2016, one was accepted.
[15:36:59] <lol768> Missed from my stats, an acceptance in 2013 and another rejection in 2014. So, it varies - and you won't really know until you submit the app. Common rejection reasons: inadequate DDoS protection, inadequate hosting, poor quality of application, concerns about longevity of the server, concerns over bandwidth, concerns over the submitter's ability to maintain the server.
[15:37:05] <thimbronion> chauffer: TMSR stands for "The Most Serene Republic." We are working on several projects around Bitcoin, from a game, to cryptography.
[15:39:14] <thimbronion> lol768 - very interesting thanks. So how long have you been an admin?
[15:42:30] <lol768> 2018
[15:42:35] <lol768> I was an oper before then
[15:43:01] <lol768> (so, not long at all in the grand scheme of things :P)
[15:43:17] <lol768> This network is older than me
[15:43:26] <thimbronion> lol768: ah so do those acceptances include any external apps?
[15:44:22] <lol768> these are just external apps, I think (I'd expect internal apps to be submitted differently) - though in one or two cases the folks applying had been around the network a while
[15:45:49] <lol768> I might be wrong on this, though
My questions went unanswered for the most part and I let it pass ("Very interesting thanks").
I wonder if Linus Torvalds came in and wanted to link a server, would they be so adamant about him filling out the damn application? I do not know how to communicate clearly that they are missing out on the chance to save their network from oblivion.
It's very hard to follow who-said-what in your transcript above. Put in the nicknames for each line, it can't work like this (for a while I was wondering if you had several nicks in there, lolz).
Other than that, there is some improvement in there. You need however to do 2 things: communication means you engage with them and *react* to what is said as well as to what is not said though it should have been; you can't just go in with a statement and a rigid expectation of specific response, getting totally stuck if the response is different. That's not communication, it's closer to bot-like "interaction". Why are you so easily stuck on this anyway?