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	<title>Comments on: Stuck on China</title>
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	<description>ὁι λογοι και τα ἐργα</description>
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		<title>By: Stanislav Datskovskiy</title>
		<link>http://thimbron.com/2020/04/stuck-on-china/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanislav Datskovskiy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that I find it difficult to imagine a celibate lizard. For Reddit paupers, yes, it is probably the norm, but for nomenklatura? I suppose it isn't entirely impossible. And some are homosexual, a la the old British elite, and promoted through the ranks on that basis.

Re: treasury bonds -- unlike e.g. nukes, this particular whip has an adjustment dial, and so gives possibility of warning shots; hence they need not take it all the way to pyrrhic victory.

Gold stockpile is not the reason why China is the rider, and USA -- the horse. AFAIK the reason is simply that the former has an industrial base, while the latter -- has just about reverted to 18th century level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that I find it difficult to imagine a celibate lizard. For Reddit paupers, yes, it is probably the norm, but for nomenklatura? I suppose it isn't entirely impossible. And some are homosexual, a la the old British elite, and promoted through the ranks on that basis.</p>
<p>Re: treasury bonds -- unlike e.g. nukes, this particular whip has an adjustment dial, and so gives possibility of warning shots; hence they need not take it all the way to pyrrhic victory.</p>
<p>Gold stockpile is not the reason why China is the rider, and USA -- the horse. AFAIK the reason is simply that the former has an industrial base, while the latter -- has just about reverted to 18th century level.</p>
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		<title>By: thimbronion</title>
		<link>http://thimbron.com/2020/04/stuck-on-china/#comment-90</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever checked out https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/?  I suspect fortunately for you you have not.  Maybe I'm naive but I think many of these people are celibate.

On the other hand yes there are many instances of cheaters "getting away with it" without being defrocked, like Joe Biden, Clinton, etc.  But in these cases everyone knows what's going on, even the plebs.

Re: treasury obligations, I am likely out of my depth there, but wouldn't that be sort of a pyrrhic victory option?  I know they've been stockpiling gold but who gives a shit about gold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever checked out <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/?" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/?</a>  I suspect fortunately for you you have not.  Maybe I'm naive but I think many of these people are celibate.</p>
<p>On the other hand yes there are many instances of cheaters "getting away with it" without being defrocked, like Joe Biden, Clinton, etc.  But in these cases everyone knows what's going on, even the plebs.</p>
<p>Re: treasury obligations, I am likely out of my depth there, but wouldn't that be sort of a pyrrhic victory option?  I know they've been stockpiling gold but who gives a shit about gold?</p>
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		<title>By: Stanislav Datskovskiy</title>
		<link>http://thimbron.com/2020/04/stuck-on-china/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanislav Datskovskiy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand, the implicit threat to sell off U.S. treasury obligations is sufficient "plomo."

Re: the old wives -- I don't see the problem; even a very junior lizard is reliably serviced by "interns" etc. and "scandal" can only take place if he falls from grace with his commander. (Otherwise, if someone attempts to create a "scandal", it goes under news blackout; or, at worst, the result is a Chandra Levy, rather than a Lewinski.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand, the implicit threat to sell off U.S. treasury obligations is sufficient "plomo."</p>
<p>Re: the old wives -- I don't see the problem; even a very junior lizard is reliably serviced by "interns" etc. and "scandal" can only take place if he falls from grace with his commander. (Otherwise, if someone attempts to create a "scandal", it goes under news blackout; or, at worst, the result is a Chandra Levy, rather than a Lewinski.)</p>
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		<title>By: thimbronion</title>
		<link>http://thimbron.com/2020/04/stuck-on-china/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>thimbronion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2020 02:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it doesn't cost them much.  And what you say is true, but, why bother with the giving out money at all then if not for *some reason*?  And if bribery didn't work, then nobody would do it.  It is *true* that in many cases it's never just plata, but plomo too, but I don't see the plomo in McConnell's case.  Perhaps one should always just assume there's plomo?  Stalin had plenty of plomo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it doesn't cost them much.  And what you say is true, but, why bother with the giving out money at all then if not for *some reason*?  And if bribery didn't work, then nobody would do it.  It is *true* that in many cases it's never just plata, but plomo too, but I don't see the plomo in McConnell's case.  Perhaps one should always just assume there's plomo?  Stalin had plenty of plomo.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanislav Datskovskiy</title>
		<link>http://thimbron.com/2020/04/stuck-on-china/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanislav Datskovskiy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn't clear to me that it "costs them" anything at all. Or rather, that discussing the subject in terms of dollars sheds any light on it.

By the same token one could attempt to calculate e.g. Stalin's "cost to rule the SU" by adding up cost of the ink and paper used to write his memos, the cost in rubles of his desk telephone, his meals, etc.

Some nominally largest donor somewhere may be "NORPAC at $160,075" but some rando schmuck who comes up with $160,075 (~24 btc just now) won't be buying a "NORPAC". In fact he may or may not be able to buy toilet paper, depending on locale.

It isn't about the dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn't clear to me that it "costs them" anything at all. Or rather, that discussing the subject in terms of dollars sheds any light on it.</p>
<p>By the same token one could attempt to calculate e.g. Stalin's "cost to rule the SU" by adding up cost of the ink and paper used to write his memos, the cost in rubles of his desk telephone, his meals, etc.</p>
<p>Some nominally largest donor somewhere may be "NORPAC at $160,075" but some rando schmuck who comes up with $160,075 (~24 btc just now) won't be buying a "NORPAC". In fact he may or may not be able to buy toilet paper, depending on locale.</p>
<p>It isn't about the dollars.</p>
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